Sam Leith, author of The Haunted Wood: A History of Childhood Reading, returns to Backlisted to discuss two novels by Nicholas Fisk, Grinny (1973) and its sequel, You Remember Me! (1984). Fisk's SF thrillers were tremendously popular with young readers during the 1970s and 1980s but his work is now rather forgotten, an error we wish to correct as a matter of urgency. The plot of You Remember Me! may be summarised as follows: a TV celebrity becomes the head of a mass populist movement in the UK, leading their country into fascism at the behest of an alien power. As such, Fisk's novel has something to tell us (and our children) right now, which is why we have released this episode early. Our conversation was recorded on Friday 8th November 2024, in the immediate aftermath of the US election results; in addition to Grinny and You Remember Me!, Sam, John and Andy offer suggestions of other books written for young people that warn of the reality of life under fascist regimes, including The Once and Future King, Watership Down and V for Vendetta. Just don't call it an emergency podcast. In the words of Timothy Snyder in his book On Tyranny: 'When we repeat the same words and phrases that appear in the daily media, we accept the absence of a larger framework. To have such a framework requires more concepts, and having more concepts requires reading. So get the screens out of your room and surround yourself with books.'

Books mentioned:
Nicholas Fisk - Grinny; You Remember Me!; Trillions
Sam Leith - The Haunted Wood: A History of Childhood Reading; You Talkin’ to Me? Rhetoric From Aristotle to Trump and Beyond; Write to the Point: How to be Clear, Correct and Persuasive on the Page
Timothy Snyder - On Tyranny; Freedom
T.H. White - The Once and Future King
Richard Adams - Watership Down
Alan Moore - V for Vendetta
Penelope Lively - The Ghost of Thomas Kempe
Susan Cooper - The Dark is Rising
Roald Dahl - Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator