Backlisted Special: Alan Garner - Treacle Walker

This is a Backlisted special, recorded at the Bodleian Library in Oxford to celebrate the publication of Treacle Walker the new novel by Alan Garner (Fourth Estate). 

The panel discussion features Erica Wagner, writer and critic and editor of First Light, an anthology of pieces about Alan Garner’s work; Dr Melanie Giles, archaeologist and the author of Bog Bodies, the definitive account of the phenomenon which plays a significant role in the book’s story; and Professor Bob Cywinski, physicist, whose conversations with Alan Garner about time, landscape and local legend provided the inspiration for the novel. 

The podcast also features readings from the novel from the (excellent) 4thEstate audio book featuring Alan’s schoolfriend, the actor Robert Powell and audio clips from an interview about the novel that Alan recorded with his daughter, Elizabeth Garner. The music is by John Dipper, taken from a short film by David Heke premiered at the live event. All proceeds from the event went to support The Blackden Trust, the Garner’s educational charity based in The Old Medicine House, a Grade II timber framed building that Alan and Griselda Garner saved from destruction and which is also the setting ofTreacle Walker.

Books mentioned:

Alan Garner - Treacle Walker; Treacle Walker (audio book read by Robert Powell); The Stone Book Quartet; Boneland; Thursbitch; Strandloper; Red Shift; Where Shall We Run To? The Voice That Thunders
Eric Wagner - First Light: A Celebration of Alan Garner; Chief Engineer: The Man who Built Brooklyn Bridge
Melanie Giles - Bog Bodies

Other links:

Treacle Walker - a film by David & Alan Garner with music by John Dipper
The Blackden Trust

149. Elizabeth Jane Howard - Something in Disguise

For this year's Hallowe'en special John and Andy are joined by Backlisted's old fiends Andrew Male and Laura Varnam, following previous guest appearances on episodes dedicated to Beowulf (2020) and Daphne du Maurier's The Breaking Point (2019). Together we explore the work of the novelist Elizabeth Jane Howard, specifically her ghost stories, tales of horror and accounts of psychological terror: Something in Disguise (1969), Odd Girl Out (1972), Mr Wrong (1975), Falling (1999), and We Are For the Dark (1951), the volume of strange stories she co-authored with previous Backlisted subject, Robert Aickman.

Also this week, Andy is gripped by Heike Gessler's Seasonal Associate (Semiotext(e)), the novelist's account of working in Amazon's warehouse in Leipzig, while John enjoys being unsettled by Women's Weird: Strange Stories by Women, 1980-1940, edited by Melissa Edmundson, the first in a series of 'Weird' anthologies published by Handheld Press.

NB. THIS EPISODE IS PACKED WITH SPOILERS and you may wish to read Something in Disguise before you listen to the podcast.

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Books mentioned:

Elizabeth Jane Howard - Something in Disguise; Falling; Mr Wrong; Odd Girl Out; The Long View; The Light Years
Elizabeth Jane Howard & Robert Aickman - We Are For the Dark
Elizabeth Jane Howard - Slipstream: A Memoir
Melissa Edmunson (ed) - Women’s Weird: Strange Stories by Women 1890-1940
Melissa Edmunson (ed) - Women’s Weird 2: More Strange Stories by Women 1890-1937
James Machin (ed) - British Weird: Selected Short Fiction 1893-1937
Heike Gessler - Seasonal Associate
Robert Aickman - The Wine Dark Sea
Kingsley Amis - The Green Man

Other links:

‘Black Sabbath’ by Nikos Achilles
Elizabeth Jane Howard interviews Evelyn Waugh, Monitor, 1964
Elizabeth Jane Howard discusses her adaptation of Something in Disguise and reads from the novel, 1982
Elizabeth Jane Howard and Frank Delaney review Margaret Atwood's novel Bodily Harm, 1982
Elizabeth Jane Howard interview with Sally Hardcastle, 1987
Elizabeth Jane Howard discusses Falling with Eleanor Wachtel, 2003
Elizabeth Jane Howard discusses Falling with James Naughtie, 2004
Martin Amis remembers his stepmother Elizabeth Jane Howard, 2015
’Down by the Old Millstream’ by Gene Kelly and Frank Sinatra

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148. Dorothy Baker - Cassandra at the Wedding

Andy & John are joined by publisher Alexandra Pringle and Simon Thomas, editor and co-host of the Tea or Books? podcast. The book under discussion is Cassandra at the Wedding, the fourth and final novel by Dorothy Baker, first published in 1962 by Houghton Mifflin in the USA and Victor Gollancz in the UK. What is it about this darkly funny tale of two devoted sisters that continues to appeal to generations of readers?

Also in this episode John enjoys Notes from an Island by Tove Jansson and Tuulikki Pietilä, newly reissued by Sort Of Books, while Andy returns to early 1980s London via Michael Bracewell's new book Souvenir (White Rabbit).

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Books mentioned:

Dorothy Baker - Cassandra at the Wedding; Young Man with a Horn; Trio
Tove Jansson & Tuulikki Pietilä - Notes from an Island
Michael Bracewell - Souvenir; Perfect Tense
Tove Jansson - The Summer Book; The Winter Book; Fair Play
Mollie Panter Downes - My Husband Simon
Mary Essex - Tea is So Intoxicating
F. Tennyson Jesse - A Pin to See the Peepshow
Winnifred Boggs - Sally On the Rocks
Dorothy Evelyn Smith - O, the Brave Music
Esther Freud - Hideous Kinky; Peerless Flats
Lucy Ellman - Sweet Desserts
Miriam Toews - All My Puny Sorrows
Meg Rossoff - The Great Godden

Other links:
Peter Flannery on adapting the book for radio
Trailer for Young Man With a Horn
Bix Beiderbecke - ‘Bless You! Sister’

147. John Berryman - The Dream Songs

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The guest for this episode is novelist and memoirist Susie Boyt (My Judy Garland Life, Loved and Missed). The book Susie has chosen for discussion is The Dream Songs (1969) by John Berryman, the publication of which briefly made its author the most famous poet in America but also, unfortunately, hastened his decline and ruin. But the work shines on.

Also in this episode Andy is struck by the contemporary resonance of Vivian Gornick's The Romance of American Communism while John drinks in Public House: A Cultural and Social History of the London Pub edited by David Knight and Cristina Monteiro.

Please note, this episode contains references to suicide.

Books mentioned:

John Berryman - The Dream Songs; 77 Dream Songs; Collected Poems; Poems Selected by Michael Hoffman; Love & Fame
Susie Boyt - My Judy Garland Life; Loved and Missed; Henry James - The Turn of the Screw & Other Ghost Stories (ed)
Vivian Gornick - The Romance of American Communism
David Knight & Cristina Monteiro (eds) - Public House: A Cultural and Social History of the London Pub
Eileen Simpson - Poets in their Youth

Other links:

Life, friends, is boring...’ Dream Song 14, recorded in Dublin, 1967
John Berryman reading at the Guggenheim Museum, 1963
Berryman reading various Dream Songs from the LP Treasury of 100 Modern American Poets
’There sat down, once, a thing on Henry's heart...’ Dream Song 29, recorded in Dublin, 1967
John Berryman reads from The Dream Songs at the University of Iowa, 1968, live recording bootlegged from the audience
I Don't Think I Will Sing Any More Just Now - PBS documentary, 1974

146. J.M. Coetzee - Elizabeth Costello

Andy and John are joined by novelist Mary Costello for a special episode recorded live at Galway International Arts Festival in Ireland on September 10th 2021. The book we're discussing is Elizabeth Costello (2003) by South-African born Nobel Laureate J.M. Coetzee, a novel that politely asks the reader to consider, amongst other matters, animal rights, the power of faith and the limits of fiction itself.

Also in this episode, new books by two Irish authors: Sally Rooney's novel Beautiful World, Where Are You and John Moriarty’s The Hut at the Edge of the Village, a collection edited by Martin Shaw and published by the Lilliput Press.

Books mentioned:

J.M. Coetzee - Elizabeth Costello; Disgrace; The Lives of Animals; The Life and Times of Michael K
Mary Costello - Academy Street; The River Capture; The China Factory
Sally Rooney - Beautiful World, Where Are You
John Moriarty - A Hut at the Edge of the Village (edited by Martin Shaw)

Other links:

J.M. Coetzee on writing in an interview from 2000
J.M. Coetzee speech at the 2003 Nobel Prize Banquet
Galway International Arts Festival ‘First Thought’ podcast

145. Summer Reading

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It’s time for our annual look at what we’ve been reading over the summer break.

John, Andy and Nicky discuss David Keenan’s fourth novel Monument Maker; Open Water, a promising debut novella from Caleb Azumah Nelson; Deborah Levy’s three-volume ‘living autobiography’, Things I Don’t Want to Know, The Cost of Living and Real Estate; a reissue of Percival Everett’s satirical diatribe Erasure; Life With a Capital L, Geoff Dyer’s selection of essays by D.H. Lawrence; and Vivian Gornick’s The End of the Novel of Love and Unfinished Business, in which the author re-reads favourite classic books and comes to fresh conclusions about them.

Books mentioned:

David Keenan - Monument Maker
Caleb Azumah Nelson - Open Water
Deborah Levy - Things I Don’t Want to Know; The Cost of Living; Real Estate
Percival Everett - Erasure
Geoff Dyer (ed) - Life With A Capital L: Essays by D.H. Lawrence
Vivian Gornick - The End of the Novel of Love; Unfinished Business: Notes of a Chronic Re-Reader

Other links:

Vivian Gornick, The Art of Fiction no 2 The Paris Review (Winter, 2014)

144. Leonard Gardner - Fat City

Perhaps the greatest boxing novel ever written, Leonard Gardner's Fat City was first published in 1969; it was shortlisted for the National Book Award; Joan Didion and Denis Johnson are amongst those who have sung its praises. The book was made into a film in 1972 starring Stacy Keach and Jeff Bridges, directed by John Huston from a screenplay by Gardner himself. In this episode Andy, John and Nicky explore both the novel and the film and the ways in which Gardner shows the reader the whole of a society through the prism of sport. We also hear from the author as to why he has never published another novel. Plus in this episode John reignites his love of D.H. Lawrence with Frances Wilson's acclaimed new biography Burning Man, while Andy shares an extract from Leonora Carrington's magical novel The Hearing Trumpet, read by actress Siân Phillips.

Books mentioned:

Leonard Gardner - Fat City
Leonora Carrington - The Hearing Trumpet; The Hearing Trumpet (audiobook)
Frances Wilson - Burning Man: The Ascent of D.H. Lawrence
Andy Miller - Tilting at Windmills: How I Tried to Stop Worrying & Love Sport
David Keenan - Monument Maker
Geoff Dyer - Out of Sheer Rage: In Search of D.H. Lawrence
Denis Johnson - Angels
A.J. Liebling - The Sweet Science: Boxing & Boxing - A Ringside View
Peter Guralnick - Last Train to Memphis; Careless Love
Jonathan Rendall - This Bloody Mary is the Last Thing I Own
Dashiell Hammett - The Maltese Falcon
Herman Melville - Moby Dick
Rudyard Kipling - The Man Who Would Be King
James Joyce - Dubliners

Other links:

Indicator DVD of Fat City including Leonard Gardner interview with Max Larkin (2015)
Fat City (John Huston, 1972) on Amazon Prime
Interview with Leonard Gardner, Paris Review Feb, 2019
Denis Johnson on Fat City, Salon Sept, 1996
Deadwood - Official website on HBO
Leonard Gardner’s story ‘Christ Has Returned to Earth and Preaches Here Nightly’ Paris Review (Fall, 1965)

143. Steve Aylett - Heart of the Original

Joining us on Backlisted this week is writer John Higgs whose fascinating new book William Blake Vs The World is out now. We were thrilled John chose Steve Aylett's guide to originality, creativity and individuality, Heart of the Original, first published by Unbound in 2015 and as original, creative and individual a book as we have ever featured on this podcast; be prepared to experience a "small-particle tulpa storm" of ideas.

Also in this episode, John enjoys the waspish melancholy of Elizabeth Hardwick's Sleepless Nights, while Andy introduces a reading from Black Teacher by Beryl Gilroy, a trailblazing Guyanese woman's memoir of post-war London.

Books mentioned:

Steve Aylett - Heart of the Original (Unbound e-book); Heart of the Original (Kindle); Lint
John Biggs - The KLF; Watling Street'; Stranger Than We Can Imagine, William Blake Vs The World
Beryl Gilroy - Black Teacher
Elizabeth Hardwick - Sleepless Nights
Flann O’Brien - At Swim Two Birds
Kurt Vonnegut - Slaughterhouse Five
Richhard Brautigan - So the Wind Won’t Blow It All Away
Martin Amis - Time’s Arrow
Philip K. Dick - Counter-Clock World
Octavia Butler - Parable of the Sower
Cormac McCarthy - The Road
Richard Jeffries After London
Angela Carter - The Bloody Chmber

Other links:

Pre-order Steve Aylett’s new comic Hyperthick
Heart of the Original trailer
Stewart Lee talks about Aylett's novel Lint on A Good Read on BBC R4
Steve Aylett interviewed by Adam Savage, June 2021
Lint The Movie (2012
Sun Ra - Space is the Place

142. Dorothy B. Hughes - In a Lonely Place

Returning to Backlisted this week are literary agents Becky Brown and Norah Perkins, joint custodians of the Curtis Brown Heritage list of literary estates and previously our guests on episode #109, Excellent Women by Barbara Pym.

We are discussing the work of crime novelist Dorothy B. Hughes and in particular her suspenseful and subversive novel In a Lonely Place (1947), freely adapted as a classic film noir by director Nicholas Ray and starring Humphrey Bogart and Gloria Grahame.

Also in this episode Norah and Becky pitch titles by Kay Dick, Stella Gibbons and R.C. Sherriff to Andy, John and Nicky. Make sure you have a pen and paper to hand...

Books mentioned:

Dorothy B. Hughes - In a Lonely Place; The Expendable Man; Ride the Pink Horse; Dread Journey
Kay Dick - They: A Sequence of Unease
Stella Gibbons - Starlight
Barbara Comyns - The Vet’s Daughter
Nina Hammett - Twisted Torso
R.C. Sherriff - The Fortnight in September; The Hopkins Manuscript
Philip Larkin - The Whitsun Weddings
Douglas Adams - Last Chance to See (audio version)
Jim Thompson - The Killer Inside Me
David Goodis - Nightfall
Donald Henderson - Mr Bowling Buys a Newspaper
Patricia Highsmith - Deep Water
James M. Cain - The Postman Always Rings Twice

Other links:

In a Lonely Place (Nicholas Ray, 1950) Criterion Edition
Travelogue film of California, 1947
Andy on Sentimental Garbage talking about R.C. Sherriff
Megan Abbott - ‘Dorothy B. Hughes & the Birth of American Noir’ in the Paris Review (Aug, 2017)
Christine Smallwood - ‘The Crime of Blackness: Dorothy B. Hughes’s Forgotten Noir’ New Yorker (Aug, 2012)

141. Nuala O'Faolain - Are You Somebody?

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Joining Andy and John this week is novelist and host of the books podcast Sentimental Garbage, Caroline O'Donoghue (Promising Young Women, Scenes of a Graphic Nature, All Our Hidden Gifts). We are discussing Nuala O'Faolain's revelatory memoir Are You Somebody? (1996), the original publication of which caused a sensation in her native Ireland. The book went on to top the New York Times bestseller list for six weeks; it still has the power to astonish.

Also in this episode Andy has been exploring John Higgs's new book William Blake Vs The World and John is moved by Consumed: A Sister's Tale, the family memoir of Arifa Akbar, chief theatre critic for the Guardian and a former guest on Backlisted (episode 59 on Beyond Black by Hilary Mantel)

Books mentioned:

Nuala O’Faolain - Are You Somebody?
Caroline O’Donoghue - Promising Young Women; Scenes of a Graphic Nature; All Our Hidden Gifts
John Higgs - William Blake Versus The World
Arifa Akbar - Consumed: A Sister’s Story
Dermot Healy - The Bend for Home
Seamus Deane (ed) - The Field Day Anthology of Irish Writing
Marian Keyes - Watermelon
Maeve Binchy - Circle of Friends

Other links:

"Do you believe in the Devil?" Irish TV, 1979
Bookshop event with Frank McCourt in the US, 1996/7
Interview with Terence Winch, US TV 2002
Final interview with Marian Finucane, 2008

140. Dermot Healy - A Goat's Song

Joining John and Andy this week are novelist Patrick McCabe and Unbound's editor-at-large Rachael Kerr. We got together to discuss Dermot Healy's remarkable second novel A Goat's Song (1994) and the peripatetic life of its author, one of the great Irish writers of recent times. Patrick, Rachael and John all knew, worked and occasionally drank with Dermot Healy and this special episode reflects their personal connections with a much-loved and much-missed man.

Patrick McCabe is the author of The Butcher Boy, which won the Irish Times Irish Literature Prize for Fiction and along with Breakfast on Pluto was both shortlisted for the Booker Prize and adapted into a feature film by Neil Jordan. His novel Winterwood was named the 2007 Hughes & Hughes/Irish Independent Irish Novel of the Year. His fourteenth novel, Poguemahone will be published in April 2022 by Unbound. It is decribed by his editor as combining the supernatural terror of Beyond Black by Hilary Mantel, with the experimental élan of Lanny by Max Porter and the mesmeric ventriloquism of Ducks, Newburyport by Lucy Ellman.

Rachael Kerr is a publisher and has worked for Cape, Picador and Harvill and is now editor-at-large for Unbound. Rachael has previously appeared on episodes 44 (Charles Sprawson’s Haunts of the Black Masseur), 83 (D.H. Lawrence’sThe Rainbow), and 87 (Bruce Chatwin’s Utz). She is still married to John.

Also in this edition Andy considers the most recent novel of another legendary Irish writer, Girl by Edna O'Brien; while John shares his admiration for Shola Von Reinhold's LOTE, winner of the Republic of Consciousness Prize for Small Presses 2021.

Books mentioned:

Dermot Healy - A Goat’s Song; The Bend for Home; Sudden Times; Long Time, No See; Banished Misfortune; The Reed Bed; Collected Poems
Patrick McCabe - Poguemahone; The Butcher Boy; Breakfast on Pluto; Winterwood
Shola von Reinhold - LOTE
Luis Sagasti - A Musical Offering
Edna O’Brien - Girl; James Joyce
Alistair Macleod - Island: The Collected Stories
Barbara Pym - Crampton Hodnet
James Joyce - Ulysses
Malcolm Lowry - Under the Volcano

Other links:

Planxty playing The Blacksmith on The Late Late Show, 1972
The Writing in the Sky (Gary Keane, 2011) Dermot talking to poetry class, Heaney reading poetry, Bill Swainson chatting to DH
Bill Swainson discusses DH on The Last Word, Radio 4
Dermot Healy Tribute on RTE, 2014
Dermot Healy interview with Timothy O’Grady in Wasafiri (2010)
Dermot Healy acts in I Could Read the Sky (Nichola Bruce & Tim O’Grady, 1999)

139. Gerard Reve - The Evenings

Joining John and Andy for this episode are novelist Marie Phillips and novelist, screenwriter and poet Joe Dunthorne. The book we are discussing is Gerard Reve's debut novel De Avonden aka The Evenings: A Winter’s Tale, which caused a sensation when published in the Netherlands in 1947 and is now considered a classic. In the words of Herman Koch, it may be 'the funniest, most exhilarating novel about boredom ever written'. Reve was only 24; he went on to have a long, successful and frequently scandalous career but only a handful of his books have been translated into English.

Joe Dunthorne is novelist and poet and was born and brought up in Swansea. His debut novel, Submarine, was translated into twenty languages and made into an award-winning film. His second novel, Wild Abandon, won the Society of Authors’ Encore Award. His latest is The Adulterants. His first collection of poems, O Positive, was published by Faber in 2019, and his tremendous short story All the Poems Contained Within Will Mean Everything to Everyone, appeared in the same year as Rough Trade pamphlet..

 Marie Phillips is an author whose works include the international bestseller Gods Behaving Badly, a first novel that was also translated into twenty languages. The Table of Less Valued Knights was longlisted for the Bailey’s Women’s Prize for Fiction in 2015 and Oh, I Do Like to Be..., a seaside reworking of Shakespeare’s play The Comedy of Errors, was published by Unbound by 2019. Reviewing the book in the Spectator, Andy called it ‘fast, clever and significantly funnier than the original’. Marie is the co-writer of the BBC Radio Four series Warhorses of Letters. She recently spent several years living in Amsterdam, where she trained as a professional storyteller.

Also in this episode John digs Bella Bathurst's new book Field Work: What Land Does to People & What People Do to Land and Andy surveys Landscapes of Detectorists and finds some prose to treasure.

Books mentioned:

Gerard Reve - The Evenings; Childhood: Two Novellas; Parent’s Worry
Joe Dunthorne - Submarine; Wild Abandon; The Adulterants; O Positive; All the Poems Contained Within Will Mean Everything to Everyone
Marie Phillips - Gods Behaving Badly; The Table of Less Valued Knights; Oh, I Do Like to Be…
Innes M. Keighren & Joanna Northcup (eds) - Landscapes of the Detectorists
Bella Bathurst - Field Work: What Land Does to People & What People Do to Land
Peter Blevgad - Imagine, Observe, Remember
Tessa Norton & Bob Stanley - Excavate! The Wonderful & Frightening Word of the Fall
J.D. Salinger - The Catcher in the Rye
Thomas Bernhard - Concrete

Other links:

'Midwinters Horn' and 'Riepe Garste' from Folk Songs and Dances of the Netherlands (Folkways)
'Des Winters Als Het Regent' from Dutch Folk Songs by Jantina Noorman (Folkways)
Hancock's Half Hour: A Sunday Afternoon At Home
Gerard Reve reads the audiobook of De Avonden
A Windmill in Old Amsterdam’ by David Bowie and Stevie Ricks
The Fourth Man (Paul Verhoeven, 1983) on Prime

138. Betty MacDonald - The Plague and I

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Joining John and Andy for this episode are Natasha McEnroe, the Keeper of Medicine at the Science Museum in London, and novelist Lissa Evans, Backlisted's old friend and the show's Original Guest, both of whom are Betty MacDonald superfans.

Natasha is the Keeper of Medicine at the Science Museum in South Kensington, London. Her previous post was Director of the Florence Nightingale Museum, and prior to this she was Museum Manager of the Grant Museum of Zoology and Comparative Anatomy and Curator of the Galton Collection at University College London. Before that she was Curator of Dr Johnson’s House in London’s Fleet Street and has also worked for the National Trust and the Victoria & Albert Museum. Natasha was editor of Medicine: An Imperfect Science (Scala, 2019), co-editor of The Medicine Cabinet (Carlton, 2019) and co-editor of The Hospital in the Oatfield – The Art of Nursing in the First World War (Strange Attractor, 2014). Her research interests focus on 19th-century public health and the history of nursing. She is a Trustee of Dr Johnson’s House in London and of the Erasmus Darwin Museum in Lichfield and is a Freeman of The Worshipful Company of Barbers. 

 Lissa Evans writes for both adults and children when she's not guesting on Backlisted Pod.Her recent novel,V for Victory - which is out in paperback from Black Swan in June - is set in London at the end of the Second World War and completes a loose historical trilogy which began with Old Baggage andCrooked Heart. This is her seven-and-a-halfth Backlisted – for as well as appearing on the very first episode (on J.L. Carr’s A Month in the Country), Lissa has been a guest on episodes 36, 78, 90, 108, and 125 discussing variously the work of Patrick Hamilton, Edith Wharton, Charles Dickens, Marcel Proust and Geoffrey Willans & Ronald Searle, as well as the one-off mini-cast on George Saunders’sLincoln in the Bardo.

The Plague and I (1948) is the author's unflinching and hilarious memoir of the nine months she spent as a patient at a TB sanatorium in the Pacific North West of America. We discuss this book and the eventful life of its million-selling author (The Egg and I, Anybody Can Do Anything, Onions in the Stew), are exposed to a selection of TB-related public information films and music, and there is even a 'communicable disease in literature' quiz.

Also in this episode Andy is grabbed by Mr Bowling Buys a Newspaper (1943) by Donald Henderson, reputedly Raymond Chandler's favourite crime novel; while John has been enjoying Olivette Otele's recently published history African Europeans, which traces a long African European heritage via the lives of individuals both ordinary and extraordinary.

Books mentioned:

Beetyy MacDonald - The Plague and I; The Plague and I (audiobook); The Egg and I; Onions in the Stew: Anyone Can Do Anything
Donald Henderson - Mr Bowling Buys a Newspaper
Olivette Otele - African Europeans: An Untold History
Lissa Evans - Crooked Heart; Old Baggage; V for Victory
Natasha McEnroe - Medicine: An Imperfect Science; The Medicine Cabinet; The Hospital in the Oatfield
Sathnam Sangera - Empireland
David Olusoga - Black and British
Paula Becker-Brown - Looking for Betty MacDonald
Thomas Mann - The Magic Mountain

Othe links:

Victoria Spivey - TB Blues
Defeat Tuberculosis (1950)
Rodney (1950)
Galton and Simpson interview
The Egg and I film trailer
Claire Dederer’s ‘Her Great Depression’ in Columbia Journalism Review
Jimmie Rodgers - TB Blues

137. Laurence Sterne - The Life and Opinions of Tristram Shandy, Gentleman

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Published in nine volumes between 1759 and 1767, and usually abbreviated to Tristram Shandy - Laurence Sterne's cock and bull story - has entertained, baffled, enchanted, infuriated and inspired readers ever since; needless to say, at Backlisted we love it.

Joining John and Andy to celebrate this great, hilarious, digressive novel - or is it a series of great, hilarious, digressive novels? - are award-winning children's author Katherine Rundell and our friend Frank Cottrell-Boyce, who adapted Tristram Shandy for the big screen in 2005 as A Cock and Bull Story. As a bonus, you'll hear Steve Coogan, the star of that film, read from the book(s) - exclusively for Backlisted listeners.

Also in this episode, Andy enjoys a "relentless excursion into style" with Fun in a Chinese Laundry (1965), the autobiography of film director Josef von Sternberg; while John takes a sounding of Jennifer Lucy Allan's fascinating new book The Foghorn's Lament: The Disappearing Music of the Coast

Books metnioned:

Laurence Sterne - The Life & Opinions of Tristram Shandy, Gentleman; A Sentimental Journey & Other Writings
Martin Rowson - The Life & Opinions of Tristram Shandy, Gentleman
Ian Campbell Ross - Laurence Sterne: A Life
Katherine Rundell - Rooftoppers; The Explorer; The Wolf Wilder
Frank Cottrell Boyce - Millions; The Astounding Broccoli Boy; Sputnik’s Guide to Life on Earth; Runaway Robot
Josef von Sternberg - Fun in a Chinese Laundry
Jennifer Lucy Allan - The Foghorn’s Lament
T. Coraghessen Boyle - Stories
Sue Townsend - The Secret Diary of Adrian Mole Aged 13 ¾

Other links:

The Laurence Sterne Trust at Shandy Hall
BBC World Service idents over the years aka ’Lillibulero’
Dexys Midnight Runners, ‘Dance Stance’
Desert Island Discs archive
Wesley Stace sings C18th ballad of ‘Tristram Shandy’
A Cock and Bull Story (Michael Winterbottom, 2005)
Martin Rowson interview re: his graphic novel adaptation of Tristram Shandy
Hunky Funky Woman by Tristram Shandy (1973)

136. Clarice Lispector - Água Viva

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Like several of Lispector's remarkable novels, this slim book caused a sensation when first published in her native Brazil in 1973. Exquisitely written and daringly abstract, Água Viva stands as one of its author's masterpieces with Near to the Wild Heart (1943), Family Ties (1960), The Passion According to G.H. (1964) and The Hour of the Star (1977). Joining John and Andy to explore this truly iconic author's life and work are writers Wendy Erskine and David Keenan.

Wendy Erskine's first short story collection, Sweet Home, was published by Stinging Fly in 2018 and Picador in 2019.  Her next one, Dance Move will be out in early 2022.  David Keenan is the author of four novels: the cult classic This Is Memorial DeviceFor the Good Times (which won the Gordon Burn Prize), The Towers The Fields The Transmitters and Xstabeth. His fifth novel, Monument Maker, will be published by White Rabbit Books in August this year.

Also in this episode, John has been reading Peter Blegvad's recent book Imagine, Observe, Remember, ‘a way to look at different ways of looking and seeing’ from the wonderful Uniform Books; Andy, meanwhile, digs Excavate! The Wonderful and Frightening World of The Fall, a new anthology of essays, artwork and ephemera edited by Tessa Norton and Bob Stanley.

Books mentioned:

Clarice Lispector - Água Viva; Near to the Wild Heart; The Passion According to G.H.; The Hour of the Star; Collected Stories
Benjamin Moser - Why This World: A Biography of Clarice Lispector
Wendy Erskine - Sweet Home
David Keenan - This Is Memorial DeviceFor the Good Times;The Towers The Fields The TransmittersXstabeth; Monument Maker
Peter Blegvad - Imagine, Observe, Remember
Tessa Norton and Bob Stanley - Excavate! The Wonderful and Frightening World of The Fall
Sylvia Plath - Ariel
Fernando Pessoa - The Book of Disquiet
Samuel Beckett - Company / Ill Seen Ill Said / Worstward Ho / Stirrings Still
John Keats - Selected Letters

Other links:

Django Reinhardt - Brazil
Maria Bethânia ler trechos do livro “Água Viva” Homenagem a Clarice Lispector, Panorama (1979). Direitos autorais: Fundação Padre Anchieta (TV Cultura).
Benjamin Moser on translating Clarice Lispector, comments edited from this interview
TV interview with Clarice Lispector - São Paulo, 1977 (English subtitles)
The Fall, Totale's Turns (1980)
Gregorian chant in Portuguese
João Gilberto - Águas de Março (1973)

135. Halldór Laxness - The Fish Can Sing

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This episode focusses, The Fish Can Sing, a novel by the great Icelandic Nobel laureate Halldór Laxness, first published in 1957 as Brekkukotsannáll (which roughly translates as ‘the annals of Brekkukot’). Joining Andy and John to discuss this book and the remarkable eighty-year career of Laxness, is the novelist and poet, Derek Owusu, winner of the 2020 Desmond Elliott Prize for That Reminds Me. The episode also covers Andy’s exploration of the Blitz through Frances Faviel’s memoir Chelsea Concerto while John gets granular with language in his reading of Brian Dillon’s audacious Suppose a Sentence.

134. Penelope Mortimer - Daddy's Gone A-Hunting

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Joining John and Andy to discuss Penelops Mortimer's fearless and pioneering autobiographical novel, Daddy's Gone A-Hunting (1958) along with Saturday Lunch With The Brownings (1960) and The Pumpkin Eater (1962), plus the latter's subsequent film adaptation, are critic and broadcaster Lucy Scholes and New York Times daily books editor John Williams.

Lucy Scholes writes about books, film and art for a variety of publications including The Financial Times, the DailyTelegraphNYR Daily and Granta. She is the Managing Editor of the literary magazine The Second Shelf: Rare Books and Words by Women, and hosts Ourshelves, a podcast from the legendary feminist publishing house Virago. She also writes ‘Re-Covered’, a monthly column for the Paris Review about out-of-print and forgotten books that shouldn't be. She previously appeared on Backlisted  episode no. 14 to discuss The Vet’s Daughter by Barbara Comyns; Backlisted no. 49 on Look at Me by Anita Brookner and most recently, episode no 88 on Human Voices by Penelope Fitzgerald.

 John Williams is the daily books editor and a staff writer at the New York Times, where he has worked since 2011. Before that, he spent several years on the editorial side of book publishing and founded and ran the literary website The Second Pass. John’s previous appearance on Backlisted was on episode no 117 on William James’s The Varieties of Religious Experience.

Also in this episode John is moved by Brown Baby, the new memoir by Nikesh Shukla; and Andy takes a break with Always A Welcome: The Glove Compartment History Of The Motorway Service Area by David Lawrence.

Books mentioned:

Penelope Mortimer - Daddy's Gone A-HuntingI; Saturday Lunch With The Brownings; The Pumpkin Eater; About Time;: An Aspect of Autobiography; About Time Too: 1948 - 1979
Nikesh Shukla - Brown Baby: A Memoir of Race, Family & Home; The Good Immigrant
David Lawrence - Always a Welcome: The Glove Compartment History of the Motorway Service Area
Elizabeth Jenkins - The Tortoise and the Hare
Margaret Drabble - The Millstone

Other links:

James Mason reads the menu at the Regent's Park Zoo cafeteria, from The Pumpkin Eater:
Yootha Joyce invents Twitter at the hairdressing salon, from The Pumpkin Eater:
The Pumpkin Easter (Jack Clayton, 1964)
Bunny Lake is Missing (Otto Preminger, 1965)
Gustav Mahler: ‘Ich bin die welt abhanden gekommen’ Soprano Janet Baker, conductor Sir John Barbirolli.

133. Josephine Tey - Miss Pym Disposes

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This episode focusses on Josephine Tey's classic mystery Miss Pym Disposes (1946), recorded as part of Aberdeen's Granite Noir festival on February 19th 2021. Joining John and Andy to explore the life and career of Josephine Tey AKA Gordon Daviot AKA Elizabeth MacKintosh (her real name) is Val McDermid, bestselling author and Tey's fellow Queen of Crime.

Val has sold over 17 million books, is translated into more than 40 languages and had her work made into a string of hit TV series. She’s won the CWA Gold Dagger, the CWA Cartier Diamond Dagger, the Grand Prix des Romans D’Aventure, the Lambda Literary Foundation Pioneer Award, the Stonewall Writer of the Year, the Los Angeles Times Book of the Year Award and – uniquely – has been shortlisted in four different categories in the Mystery Writers of America Edgar Awards. In 2016 she received the Outstanding Contribution to Crime Fiction award at the Theakston’s Old Peculiar Harrogate Crime Festival and in 2017 she was elected a Fellow of both the Royal Society of Literature and the Royal Society of Edinburgh.

Her best-known crime novels are the Wire in the Blood series, featuring clinical psychologist Dr Tony Hill and DCI Carol Jordan, but Val has also created three other series including one featuring cold case detective Karen Pirie.  Her latest Karen Pirie novel Still Life was published in paperback by Sphere in February 2021 and there’s new hardback novel, due in August, which will launch a brand-new series. 

Her online video series, Cooking The Books: Recipes from the Fiction Kitchen has been a lockdown hit; she’s a lifelong Raith Rovers Football Club supporter; and – last but not least – Val McDermid is the lead singer in a band – the Fun Lovin’ Crime Writers, possibly the only band made up of crime writers ever to play at Glastonbury.

Tey was the author of a series of highly successful novels, and film and TV adaptations, including Brat Farrar, The Franchise Affair and The Daughter of Time, yet she remains something of an enigma. As you'll hear, we thoroughly enjoyed immersing ourselves in her work and learning more about her from Val. Please note: this audio version of the podcast is longer and contains more material than the Granite Noir video webcast. If you would like to watch the original, it's currently available via the Granite Noir website.

Books mentioned

Josephine Tey - Miss Pym Disposes; Brat Farrar; The Daughter of Time; The Franchise Affair; To Love & Be Wise; The Singing Sands
Jennifer Morag Henderson - A Life of Josephine Tey
Val McDermid - Still Life; Resistance (graphic novel); Resistance (audiobook)
Ali Smith - Summer
Mick Heron - The Slough House; Down Cemetery Road
Mavis Doriel - Death on the Cherwell
Dorothey L. Sayers - Gaudy Night
Gladys Mitchell - Laurels are Poison
P.D. James - Shroud for a Nightingale

Other links:

This episode on video at Granite Noir
Granite Noir website
Republic of Consciousness Prize
Val McDermid’s Cooking the Books on YouTube
Pathe News - Now For A Couple of Minutes in Inverness (1935)
Paranoiac trailer (Hammer Films, 1962)
The Franchise Affair, BBC1 serial, 1988

132. Joseph Roth - Job

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Joining John and Andy to explore this austere and powerful novel, first published in German in 1930 as Hiob: Roman eines einfachen Mannes (‘the story of a simple man’) are Keiron Pim, whose much-anticipated biography of Joseph Roth will be published in 2022, and a returning Backlisted guest, bibliomemoirist and playwright Samantha Ellis. Roth was a prolific yet enigmatic writer - his other books include The Radetzky March and The Legend of the Holy Drinker - and this episode takes a long, considered look at his (often chaotic) life and work, and where Job fits into both.

Keiron Pim is an author, freelance journalist and creative writing tutor, whose last book was Jumpin’ Jack Flash: David Litvinoff and the Rock’n’Roll Underworld, the first biography of one of the most extraordinary characters in Sixties London, published by Jonathan Cape in 2016. Previously he wrote a popular science book about dinosaurs, and edited and introduced Into the Light: the Medieval Hebrew Poetry of Meir of Norwich, the first translated edition of  poems by a 13th century writer from the city where Keiron lives.

Samantha is the author of a reading memoir, How to be a Heroine, or what I’ve Learned from Reading Too Much and  a biography of Anne Brontë called Take Courage. She also writes plays including How to Date a Feminist, which has been produced in London, Gdansk, Mexico City, Istanbul and in several theatres in Germany—in one of which it was staged in a boxing ring.

Also in this episode, Andy shares a reading by Salena Godden from her acclaimed new novel Mrs Death Misses Death, while John is beguiled by the fragmented visions of Max Porter's The Death of Francis Bacon.

Books mentioned:

Jospeh Roth - Job: The Story of a Simple Man; The Radetsky March; The Legend of the Holy Drinker; What I Saw: Reports from Berlin 1920-33
Kieron Pim - Jumpin’ Jack Flash: David Litvinoff and the Rock’n’Roll Underworld'; The Bumper Book of Dinosaurs; Into the Light: The Medieval Hebrew Poetry of Meir of Norwich
Samantha Ellis -  How to be a Heroine, or what I’ve Learned from Reading Too Much: Take Courage: Anne Bronte and the Art of Life; How to Date a Feminist
Max Porter - The Death of Francis Bacon; The Death of Francis Bacon (audio); Lanny
Salena Godden - Mrs Death Misses Death; Mrs Death Misses Death (audio)

Other links:

Radetzky-Marsch, Op.228 by Johann Strauss Sr by USSR State Orchesta
Phil Kelsall MBE plays the Radetzky March on the Wurlitzer Organ at the Tower Ballroom, Blackpool
MIke Oldfield plays the Radetzky March live at the Stadthalle, Vienna, Austria, April 20th 1980
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’A Dudele’ sung by Mordechay Hershman, 1921

131. Locklisted - Teenage Books Special

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This Locklisted special is the companion piece to the previous episode on books we read as children. It was recorded in August 2020 and was previously available exclusively to supporters of our Patreon.

Here we cover our teenage years and the tricky transition into ‘adult’ readers. Much of the conversation is dominated by of our re-reading of The Catcher in the Rye by J.D. Salinger, but you also get John falling for James Joyce at seventeen (via Wilbur Smith), Nicky moving from Puffin Plus to Douglas Coupland, a digression on the horror novels of Stephen King and and a haunting reading by Andy from a story by Graham Greene. 

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As far as possible, all the books listed below are supplied via the Backlisted shop on bookshop.org and a proportion of the price helps support the podcast.

Books mentioned:

J.D. Salinger - The Catcher in the Rye; Raise High the Roof Beam, Carpenter & Seymour: An Introduction
Wilbur Smith - The Sunbird
Jack Higgins - Luciano’s Luck
Stephen King - It; Misery
J.R.R. Tolkien - The Lord of the Rings
Erich von Daniken - Chariots of the Gods
Liz Berry - Mel
P.C. Wren - Beau Geste
Shaun Hutson - Slugs
Graham Greene - The Portable Graham Greene
Douglas Adams - The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy
Colin MacInnes - Absolute Beginners
Douglas Coupland - Generation X
Ian McEwan - The Cement Garden
Iain Banks - The Wasp Factory
James Joyce - A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man
Sam Selvon - The Lonely Londoners
Jean Rhys - Wide Sargasso Sea
Victor Bockris - Up Tight

Other links:

Stand by Me (Rob Reiner, 1986)
The Shining (Stanley Kubrick, 1980)
The Velvet Underground - ‘I’m Not a Young Man Anymore’